Are Electric Cars Actually CHEAPER? | Mini EV vs Mini Petrol

Considering an electric car? Worried They might be more expensive than petrol? Rory’s done the math to work out whether cars with electric powertrains are actually more expensive than those with petrol. The results may be surprising!

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45 Replies to “Are Electric Cars Actually CHEAPER? | Mini EV vs Mini Petrol”

  1. Daniel Harry

    One thing you don't mention is the dying battery pack which will influence the trading value when the day comes to sell the EV. If not changes are you will be replacing the very expensive battery pack. Which brings me to my last thought: Who is going to buy 5 to 10 year old EVs? Which will destroy their value.

  2. Ad van der Meer

    You have Sally pay for the charger in 12 months and not in the 36 months before. The added cost per month drops with 67%.
    Should Sally decide to buy another EV after that, the charger will still work. If we assume 10 years problem free operation, the monthly price for the charger drops with 90%!

  3. Hyperdrive E

    🤯 how can you possibly even skip, oil changes, breaks, generally all maintenance and Repairs. RESALE as well? Estimated total lifespan?
    C’mon, you must do better! This is your job.👎🏼

  4. 1uz400

    3:08 Where should Sally stick her money-saving wall charger if she lives in a terrace house in suburban Manchester?!!
    She's a great example of the many people who live in places where home charging is impossible. Many EV advocates often seem to forget about this important detail and that the non-Tesla public charging infrastructure in many parts of the UK is still a convoluted and disorganized mess. I'm certain many more people would be seriously considering the swap from ICE to EV right now if these rectifiable obstacles had been overcome. Gvmt incentives are great but in many cases totally pointless if the all-important public charging infrastructure sucks.

  5. Vidyadhar Navale

    Did I miss something? I thought you said you pay more for electric cars in the video?
    Still there is less choice with electric cars compared to ICE cars. I would like to buy one something similar to a E Class/5 series but there is none in that range.

  6. tim levy

    Servicing – If your vehicle is kept for 300,000km – that is an insane amount of money spent on servicing while an EV is virtually $0.
    Break pads and discs changed at 30K-50K ($200-300AU per/ $2-3K) depending on city driving percentages etc. Oil change every 5-10K (overpriced garage $300 per / $9,000)
    Most Teslas after 275,000km have had their battery capacity only diminished by 10%.
    The real reason the Auto Industry doesn't want us to have EV's is the spares and repairs industry which is work $1 trillion a year. They are not going to kill that off in a hurry…

  7. eeyvrcs

    What's interesting to me is back in 2001 everyone told me, never buy new, avoid first 3/4 years' depreciation , but nowadays the trend is the opposite, get brand new cars every 3 or 4 years on lease/hire purchase, effectively willingly paying for the depreciation. I still avoid buying new cars so the question I'd really like answering is a 4/5 yr used electric car cheaper overall than a 4/5 yr used ICE car? I feel the answer is still no because electric cars currently hold their value much, much better.

  8. John Doyle

    I own an EV because the driving experience is so superior to an equivalent ICE. Automatic, very fast accelaration, very quiet, and some environmental plus points.
    OK the long term owner will also benefit financially.
    Thanks for the video.

  9. Mike Routledge

    Interesting comparison but only one part of the buying process. Surely many people who buy an EV do so for environmental reasons and an easier conscience rather than the make the final decision on cash alone. If you happen to be fortunate enough to have a solar system installed at your home and you choose carefully when you charge the EV electrical costs are cheaper and refueling can be free at some times in the year. EV servicing (or inspections) are also much cheaper than ICE vehicles.

  10. CL Koay

    Rory, to compare it fairly, you also need to include the car's battery replacement cost in year 8 onward or thereabout when the EV battery degrades to a point like non removal battery in a modern mobile unable to hold a charge and servicing cost compared to an ICE. I love to see the calculation on this as we in my country, the price of a grey imported "new" Tesla E is MYR479000 which is GBP87230 and buying a new Tesla EV is going to be out of reach for most average wage earner. Most people like me look at the used car market and I may want to buy a used EV. Nissan LEAF cost MYR168000 which is GBP30600 which was tax free for a while. Nissan LEAF is now withdrawn from the Malaysian market after the govt withdrew the tax free incentive. A new LEAF would cost at least MYR268000 which would be GBP48,800 with tax levied on.

  11. Anthony charles

    At some point the government is going to start clawing back the money they are losing from fuel duty, road tax and 20% vat on that fuel.
    That can't go on for ever, especially now when the country is on its arse, also you didn't mention that after about 8 years it may need a need battery, so you either have a full size mini paper weight or spend about £10k for a battery, will the petrol car need a new engine after the same period, probably not and if it did, it would be a lot cheaper than a battery pack.

  12. Richard Piper

    One further consideration to factor in if you like to add extra options to your car is that EV’s are nearly always have more standard equipment than their un-optioned ICE equivalent. All will be automatic, have a good satnav infotainment system, heated seats and goodies like pre heating.

  13. Colin Albright

    What if you live in a block of flats..?, with 10/20 people…. How are you going to charge it..?. I'm sure the local kids will have hours of fun unplugging it… What if you live in a row of terrace houses and you park on the street outside you house..?. The infrastructure in the UK just doesn't work for Electric.. The answer is Hydrogen fuel cell.. Put our efforts into that..

  14. Barry W

    Mini SE in USA after govt tax credit is cheaper than petrol version. Your argument is wrong in USA. Home station can be used for all future cars, too and many people only need the free included granny lead for daily commute. I own an e-Golf that I got for $15,000 off sticker price. Instead of spending $60 a month on petrol I spend $20. Almost no maintenance (wiper blades) since I bought it over two years ago.

  15. Luke W

    1. Honda Insight still cool 0.25Cd and 100mpg. Like Audi A2 1.2 TDI
    2. Second hand ICE cheaper than a lease whereas older (mk1 and MK2) Nissan Leaf now has poor battery capacity, especially if rapid charged a lot as no proper thermal management of pack.
    3. Compare like with like: range of mini ice on a tank v EV on full pack? What's change in winter? ICE less affected as heat is effectively free not a 3kW electric heater.
    4. Almost nobody does 16000 miles in a small pack EV per year. That's traditional diesel owner mileage. More likely 9k pa.
    5. Public charging price per kWh much higher than fossil juice. Look at Polar instant fees. 1litre if diesel is approx 10kWh for around £1.20 including massive amount of tax ( UK drivers contribute 40 billion a year in fuel duty and VED, 10% of which spent on roads including cycle lanes)
    6. Pack degrades around 3% per annum which isn't much for a huge 750kg Tesla pack but a lot for 250kg 33kWh one.
    7. If no driveway then no preconditioning without SOC loss and associated loss of range in EV.
    8. If car left at cold airport for a week or two likely discharge of 12v DC unit. Cold soaked pack very very slow to recharge even on 50kW CCS
    9. First Porsche was an EV back in 1890s so enough of the ice age nonsense!
    10. EVs higher torque and weight ( compare the Mini 1.5 to EV) means higher tyre wear and roadside PM's from road contact.

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